Re: [OPE] fascism / opposing imperialist military intervention in Libya

From: Paula <>
Date: Sat Mar 19 2011 - 14:48:01 EDT

Jerry wrote:
>you either missed or repeatedly ignored the punch line:
>"To the extent that socialists support bourgeois democracy, it must always
>be critical support, imo"

I didn't miss it; frankly, it's an absurd punch line. Why on earth would you
give your support (critical or otherwise) to 100% exploitation? Can you
imagine putting that on your manifesto? Workers of the world, let's
campaign, critically, for 100% exploitation! It's about as logical as your
view that China, India, and Libya aren't imperialist.

And if logic isn't your forte, neither is evidence. You post statements here
such as "the rebels [in Libya] haven't even put forward a political platform
which calls for democracy or elections", without bothering to check the
facts, which are the opposite of what you say; you talk about my "uncritical
stance towards the National Transitional Council," without bothering to find
out whether or not I have any criticisms of said Council; and so on. It's a
very sad joke; it's worse than useless, it's a disgrace.

People who have strong views yet don't care for logic or evidence rely only
on stubborn prejudice. What are the chances such people will be right about
an issue as complex and controversial as imperialism? It would be an
extraordinary coincidence, akin to having a creationist come up with the
correct interpretation of quantum mechanics.

I apologize if this sounds like a personal attack on Jerry; it's not meant
that way at all. Jerry just happens to be the person who spoke out on this
occasion. But his approach, unfortunately, is very common among the radical
left. It needs to be completely abandoned if we are going to get anywhere.


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