Re: [OPE] doctors, barbers and vets

From: paul bullock <>
Date: Fri Oct 08 2010 - 06:55:28 EDT

With respect to these questions, and sorting out words and ideas ...

I urge you to read the attached, if you havn't yet done so. It is from
1975... but the analysis overall which includes health workers is ... in my
opinion... exceptionally valuable.


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Sent: 08 October 2010 08:39
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Subject: [OPE] doctors, barbers and vets

I think part of the dispute between me, Dave and I think Jurriaan on one
side and Paula and Paul on the other is terminoligical. By value I think
Paula means exchange value. By value I mean the lavour time required to make
it. A commodity has use value, exchange value and (labour) value.
THere are things which have use value and value but no echange value ; human
bodies with repaired hearts in todays society.
There are things which have use value and exchange value but no value ; land
being an example.

How does the labour of a vet differ from that of a doctor?

In practical terms what a surgeon and a vetinary surgeon do is very similar.

They differ in whether their patients can be marketed, so even if all their
sucessfull patients embody additional value only some have exchange value.

Productiveness is another matter. I would say that a vet attending to farm
animals was productive, one attending to the queens corgis is not.

Likewise a surgeon attending Her Majesty is unproductive, but a doctor
treating the general working population is productive. If , after the
establishment of a democratic republic, William is forced to work for his
living, then his medical treatment would be productive.

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