Re: [OPE] Anti-imperialism and nationalism

From: Dave Zachariah <>
Date: Fri Dec 11 2009 - 04:12:37 EST

Jerry wrote:

> So is working class unity. It's certainly more
> particular than unity of "the people".
Of course, but there is a fundamental difference: the socialist project aims
to abolish the division of people into classes. It is a form of
universalism. (Consider that many, if not most, socialist mass parties at
the beginning of the 20th century were strong where the working class was a
small minority. The Swedish Social-democratic Workers' Party gained mass
support outside of the urban proletariat.)

What nationalist project, or any other identity project for that matter,
aims to abolish nationhood as such?

> Well, that's a very specific meaning for the right of self-determination.
> In another post I argued that the right of
> self-determination has meaning outside of the context of
> nationalism.
Ok, I'm only discussing the 'right of self-determination' in its original
context of nations.

//Dave Z

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