Re: [OPE] Paul Krugman wins Nobel

From: Dave Zachariah <>
Date: Mon Oct 13 2008 - 10:15:14 EDT

2008/10/13 Alejandro Agafonow <>

> As a socialist I can't accept that being connected to labour movement is a
> requisite to be a social-democrat or socialist (this only revels a
> Marxist-centrism that I reject).
> I'm meaning "liberal" in the realm of taught, i.e., John Rawls is an
> American and a liberal (social-democrat) per excellence. Even your fellow
> countryman Gøsta Esping Andersen agrees with this, so maybe your condition
> of Swedish is beyond the point Dave Z.

Of course, if you want to disconnect words from their history you can let
'social-democrat' mean whatever you want ("left of center" or whatever). But
if we are speaking about classical social-democracy from the end of the 19th
century until the late part of the 20th century, it was a political mass
movement that thought it could transform a capitalist society into a
socialist one through piecemeal reforms.

Quite different goal and analysis from "progressive liberals", i.e.

//Dave Z

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