Re: [OPE] TSSI versus probabalistic interpretation of value theory

From: Dave Zachariah <>
Date: Sun Sep 21 2008 - 08:54:00 EDT

Paul, I think Anders is overestimating the status of Marxist economics
in Sweden. There are only a handful of people on the Left who actually
know what the transformation problem is about. To bring in a discussion
on TSSI etc. will only obscure the relevant content of the labour theory
of value.

I have already published an article in Clarté that popularises Farjoun
and Machover's framework. It contains an implicit critique of TSSI and
all other "production price" approaches. So it is a matter of spreading
the article among interested leftists in Sweden rather than writing a
new one.

//Dave Z

on 2008-09-21 14:15 Paul Cockshott wrote:
> I got the email below from the editor of the Swedish Journal
> Clarte, is there anyone on the list who could take up
> his request for a review article comparing the TSSI and
> probabalistic interpretations of value theory?
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> From: anders axelsson []
> Sent: Sat 9/20/2008 10:59 AM
> To: Paul Cockshott
> Subject: TSSI
> Hi Paul,
> I was listening to Alan Freeman who was talking about the importens of
> Marx today, in thursday on European Social Forum in Malmo, Sweden.
> When he was talking about Marx and the theory of labour value I think he
> was mentioned you and Cottrell three or four times and that it was
> problem with the probabalistic angel. The whole thing was a bit
> strange because he never discused the difference in any detalies, he
> mere mentioned it. And I wonder how much the young activist´s did
> understand of it.
> And now I wounder if it:
> a) whould be a good idea to introduce in a popular sense the differens
> between the probabalistic and the the TSSI approach for a swedesh
> audience, or if it would do more harm than good?
> b) If it is a good idea I think i would be good if it could be an
> article of someone that not is a distinct representative of any of the
> to schools. Do there already exist such a text or is there anyone who
> could write such a an article?
> c) Or are there another way to handel this?
> /Anders
> Paul Cockshott
> Dept of Computing Science
> University of Glasgow
> +44 141 330 1629
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