(OPE-L) Re: the specific social relations [of production] associated with value

From: Gerald A. Levy (Gerald_A_Levy@MSN.COM)
Date: Fri Jun 04 2004 - 17:09:46 EDT

Hi Howard.

> It might be worth making explicit a political consequence of this debate
> that is of no small significance.  If value exists only where there is
> capital, then we can exchange products  for gold under communism.  Market
> socialism will certainly play an important role in any transition, to be
> sure, but there is also the theoretical question of whether markets are
> compatible with the social form that we want to transition to.  If there's
> no necessary connection between value and markets, they are.  This is a
> whole other debate, I realize, but I think the implications of Marx's
> are to the contrary.

So -- from your perspective -- the social relations [of production]
associated with value can persist in a  *classless*  society? (Maybe
I have misunderstood you but that seems to be what you are suggesting.)

Of course, there _are_ necessary connections between value and
markets.  Did anyone suggest otherwise?

In solidarity, Jerry

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