[OPE-L:6990] [OPE-L:482] Ernst on Re: Re: Kliman on Moseley

John R. Ernst (ernst@PIPELINE.COM)
Tue, 23 Feb 1999 09:52:57

I tend to agree with Andrew on this one. The point of the
quotes eludes me. Is the term unknown or strange? Suppose
Andrew had identified Fred as a Marxist. Would that be
in quotes? On the hand, had Andrew referred to Fred as an
elitist, surely quotes would be in order.

After all the discussion of simultaneous valuation on this list,
it's a bit much to be unable to use the term -- "simultaneist"
without the quotes. Since discussing this stuff with Fred beginning
in 1981, I have always thought of him as a simultaneist. But
here our dialog begins rather than ends.

I look forward to Andrew's answer and not to further discussion of this.


At 07:48 AM 2/23/99 -0500, you wrote:
>In OPE-L:474, Jerry asked, "Andrew: in what sense can it be said
>that Fred is a "simultaneist"?"
>I will be happy to answer this question once it is re-stated without
>the scare-quotes. I do not consider them innocent. They are
>demeaning and serve a suppressive function.
>The use of the scare quotes is something Jerry picked up from the
>simultaneists themselves. By refusing to acknowledge their
>commonality as simultaneists, the simultaneists are refusing to
>acknowledge that their paradigm is ONE PARTICULAR paradigm, not
>The Way Things Are. They are therefore denying our legitimacy.
>It is just like people of European heritage in the US thinking
>something is funny or strange about the term European-American and
>refusing to use it. They don't think of themselves that way. They
>think of themselves as just "Americans" (read: The Real Legitimate
>Americans), while everyone else is "black Americans,"
>"Hispanic-Americans," "Asian-Americans," etc., i.e., flawed deviants
>to which a qualifier needs to be attached.
>(If anyone accuses me of insinuating that they are racists, this
>time I'll leave the list.)
>Andrew Kliman