[OPE-L:4510] Re: Givens in Marxs Theory -- and beyond

aramos@aramos.b (aramos@aramos.bo)
Mon, 24 Mar 1997 08:03:04 -0800 (PST)

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Jerry in #4508:

> I dont think
> that anyone could deny that many megabytes have been written on this list
> regarding TSS interpretations. Indeed, Fred has written extensively on
> that subject. Yet, has anyone from a TSS perspective attempted to
> critique Freds conception of the importance of "givens" in Marxs
> theory? If so, I dont recall it.

Well, I dont know if, for you, I "drop" in this rather obscure
"field" called "TSS perspective" but regarding the important thing,
you can see my post #3801 which began an interesting (for me) debate
with Fred (see #3840, and Duncan's #3891) about in which sense
"givens" in Marx's theory are "money magnitudes".

In any case, I agree with you that Fred has given to all us (not
only to TSSrs) more than we have given him. My proposal to discuss
if he is "Newsolutionist" is in the line to offset this. (I think his
paper for EEA is precisely on the New Solution!) Besides this, I
think that it is interesting to discuss what is the original
definition of value given by the New Solution which, I insists,
differs from Fred's.

Alejandro Ramos