[OPE-L:719] Re: value-creating power [digression]

Paul Cockshott (wpc@clyder.gn.apc.org)
Tue, 12 Dec 1995 13:01:27 -0800

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>>If they did not provide training, or have it provided by the state
>>they could not produce. Need one say anything more at this level?

>Yes. It's no matter for capitalists that they can't let workers to
>produce anything unless they can get any surplus value. We are not
>living in socialist society.

Yes, but that applies to whatever capitalist produce,
they must produce it at a profit. That does not mean
that all inputs are the source of profit.

Technical considerations dictate that the plastics
industry must have as inputs ethylene and chemistry
graduates, and the aircraft industry, aluminium and
engineering graduates. But that does not make ethylene
chemistry degress, aluminium, or engineering degress
distinct sources of value. They are specific concrete
inputs to the production process that relate to the
use-value side of production. The question of the
generation of exchange values relates to the
distribution of social labour between activities.
The sum of that labour is the social sum of value
produced, and as such it has a fixed upper limit
in the social working day. Spending part of the
social working day on training does not lenthen
the day, though it may enable more and different
use value to be made.

Paul Cockshott