Re: [OPE] Britain--parasitic and decaying capitalism: A comment

From: Paul Bullock <>
Date: Sat Jan 16 2010 - 10:40:58 EST

This and previous notes seem to suggest that Marx's work was not intended
as a political tool, which I find amazing since he called his work a bomb
under the ruling class...

And DZ seems to be saying that IF any political consequences can be drawn
they are effectively anti working class vide 'demoralisation',

So we have either the separation of historical materialism from politics, or
the abandonment of historical materialism for fear that it 'demoralises' the

A fine set of conclusions

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From: "Dave Zachariah" <>
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Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [OPE] Britain--parasitic and decaying capitalism: A comment

> On 2010-01-16 15:19, Jerry Levy wrote:
>> I think what you are doing, ironically, is the same as what I critisized
>> Dave about ealier
>> in this thread: trying to tease out the alleged political "implications"
>> of a theoretical position a a way of critiquing that theory. As I
>> remarked earlier to
>> Dave this is bad practise - but one which, unfortunately, has a long
>> history in
>> Marxist discourse.
> There is a fundamental difference here. I suggested how the structure of a
> theory was open to be used to advocate politics that the originators
> presumably did *not* intend. In the particular case it was the theory of
> labour aristocracy and imperialism could be used to destroy working class
> confidence and support national bourgeoisies, something I assumed an
> Engels or a Yaffe had *not* intended. Dogan is writing in a different
> genre, by trying to deduce my supposed intentions and political position.
> //Dave Z
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