RE: [OPE] question re published letters Engels

From: Paul Cockshott <>
Date: Sun May 10 2009 - 14:34:17 EDT


   "Only the products of mutually
independent acts of labour, performed in isolation, can confront each other
as commodities." This social relation underlies value and the commodity

paul writes
Sure, if you have a planned allocation of labour and no private producers you
no longer have commodity production, but if Marx's scheme in the critique
of the Gotha program is write you still have to calculate in terms of embodied
labour and use quantities of embodied labour in the distribution of the product.

That is, what Engels is saying is that before people produced independently
and after they produce independently, the value form will simply not be a
relevant category for conducting a social and economic calculation.

What is the value form?

It is the way that embodied labour is represented in the use value of
another commodity in an exchange. If the socially nessessary labour time
is made evident as an explicit number of hours, this is naked value, value
no longer hiding behind a form.

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