Re: [OPE] peanut butter value-form theory

From: Paula <>
Date: Tue Mar 24 2009 - 17:15:28 EDT

Oh, I get it - contaminated peanut butter. Sure, the crackers are in the
dump, not on the market, so they are not commodities any longer. We can't
measure their value any more than we can measure the value of any other
items in the dump, because they have none.


From: "GERALD LEVY" <>
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 2:55 PM
To: "Outline on Political Economy mailing list" <>
Subject: RE: [OPE] peanut butter value-form theory

>>> How many peanut butter crackers manufactured by the Peanut Corporation
>>> of
>>> America in Blakely, GA between July, 2007 and January, 2009 are worth
>>> the same as 1 coat? Is that kind of equation also "independent of users'
>>> needs"?
>> Yes. It depends on how much abstract labor is embodied in each cracker,
>> and
>> how much in the coat. (Not sure what you're getting at here).
> Hi Paula:
> The crackers had labor time expended in their creation, but they are now
> in garbage cans and landfills. They have _no_ value _because_ they have
> _no_
> use-value - that's what I'm getting at. It's an example of what is wrong
> with
> your simple equation: 1 coat would be worth more than all of the peanut
> butter crackers manufactured by the PCA in that entire time period,
> perhaps
> tens of millions of crackers and other peanut butter products, because
> the coat has value and the crackers don't. It becomes a meaningless
> equation
> precisely because this reckoning can _not_, except by assumption, be made
> entirely independently of users' needs.
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