Re: [OPE] Venezuela is the most democratic country in Latin America

From: Diego Guerrero <>
Date: Thu Mar 05 2009 - 05:43:42 EST

Why to "giv[e] to El País the benefit of the doubt" if it backed the coup against Chávez (in 2002) that put in power the president of the employers?


  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Alejandro Agafonow
  To: Outline on Political Economy mailing list
  Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:05 AM
  Subject: Re: [OPE] Venezuela is the most democratic country in Latin America

  In a country with strong institutions of accountability, features like those below would motivate an investigation on the part of competent authorities.


  Los Chávez en su Feudo


  Bienvenidos a ‘Chavezlandia’


  But these institutions are being dismantled in Venezuela. Our last hope relies on the socialists, who we expect to have untouched integrity and the courage to denounce any departure from strict transparency criteria. Well, some these socialist in Venezuela react, not giving to El País the benefit of the doubt, but openly insulting this newspaper, like did José Sant Roz in Aporrea:


  Concerning OPE-L, there is a big problem with its design. As far as I understand it was conceived to let a group of socialist scholars to debate controversial issues beyond the biases that daily militancy life impose. But since its archives are open, some of these socialists feel obliged to show their loyalty with the militancy, with which I suspect they have tight-bounds.


  It is a pity but in this scenario a sincere and transparent discussion is impossible.


  A. Agafonow

  Para: Outline on Political Economy mailing list <>
  Enviado: miércoles, 4 de marzo, 2009 20:20:02
  Asunto: RE: [OPE] Venezuela is the most democratic country in Latin America

> where the mother of Chávez appeared sumptuously dressed.
  Let's see the picture, Alejandro. If Chavez's mother was so "sumptuously dressed", I imagine _lots_ of people saw that and lots of pictures were taken.
> Your tolerance of these abuses
  No, what you are seeing it is my *intolerance* of the spreading of *urban myths* on this list.
  Anyone is free to say what they want on this list, provided it is not a flame, but if claims are
  made then the person making them (in this case, you) should be held accountable to others
  on the list.
> you don’t support accountability mechanisms indeed .
  See above. I am holding *you* accountable for *your* claims. Please note that I am *in NO
  way* threatening you. On the contrary, the worst that can happen to you is simply that others on the list and the readers of the archive will know that your claims about Chavez can not be supported
  with credible, independent evidence. Frankly, I think they've already seen more than enough to
  come to that assessment, but I leave it to others to come to their own conclusions.
  In solidarity, Jerry


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