Re: [OPE] Mass migrations & war: Dire Climate Scenario <= LordNicholas Stern, economist

From: Philip Dunn <>
Date: Sun Feb 22 2009 - 16:52:46 EST

On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 15:11 -0500, Gerald Levy wrote:
> Phil:
> Do we know the reasons why Arrak's article was rejected by _Science &
> Nature_?
> In solidarity, Jerry

"But gamma rays are just a miniscule part of their energy: the bulk of
it comes off as neutrinos and as gravitational waves which we cannot
detect at all. They would reach us before the gamma rays did but what
effect, if any, they might have on us is simply unknown. But let us
assume for argument’s sake that the observed peak does reflect a sudden,
massive injection of energy into the climate system to create an “El
Nino that shouldn’t be there.” By the middle of 1999 it is apparent that
this extra energy has already left the troposphere and should have been
absorbed into ocean water."

Ahem. Gamma rays and gravitational waves both travel at the speed of
light, neutrinos travel slightly slower since they have a tiny mass (it
is thought). Neutrinos have been detected albeit with great difficulty.
I am not sure about gravitational waves but they have been attempts to
detect them.

Cough. Black hole formation is a hugely energetic event. But they tend
to have happened long ago and far away. It takes billions of light years
for the radiation to get here, typically. It is not going to heat the
atmosphere or the ocean detectably.

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