Re: [OPE] The Crisis of the Euro

From: paul bullock <>
Date: Tue Jan 27 2009 - 16:38:53 EST


apologies, I thoughtlessly muddled you with another. Yes I dislike the abuse
of terms as well, whilst I can understand that feelings allow the use of
terms in unhelpful ways.

The discussion on 'parasitism' on the list is an example currently. Lenin
had quite a clear notion of it.

Another example my be the Yippies attack on 'rip off society' in the 70's..

this could be seen to confuse the plunder of working people in every
aspects of their lives, with the fundamental process of exploitation in the
production and circulation process examined by Marx. Yet of course since
workers are cheated in innumerable ways outside the workplace the Yippies
weren't actually 'wrong'. But it was one sided and so seriously misleading.

Keep reading.


paul B
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From: "Dave Zachariah" <>
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Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: [OPE] The Crisis of the Euro

> paul bullock wrote:
>> given your enthusiasm for Rosa ( which we all share I imagine)
> I cannot recall that I've ever expressed 'enthusiasm' for Rosa Luxemburg;
> I've read very little of her writing, mainly her political commentary.
>> i'm a bit suprised that you say you are slowly trying to read up on
>> imperialism......although such an honest staement does reflect the
>> peculiarly common position amongst left 'economists'....
> I'm not a 'left economist' but a student. I began studying political
> economy only in 2002 and if I had a more ambitious reading plan perhaps I
> would have covered 'imperialism' long ago. But my impression at the time
> was that the theory was quite underdeveloped for the modern context and
> often advocated among the most sectarian elements of the Left (more
> interested in denouncing others than in open discussion and analysis).
>> so I guess you are worried about the use of the term in the case of
>> ....... USA? UK? France?
> No, I am worried when leftists carelessly denounce any right-wing groups
> or leaders as 'fascist', thereby losing the value of the concept and
> understanding of a real and dangerous phenomena which is quite distinct
> from the conservative or ultra-Right. Similarly, 'imperialism' is thrown
> around carelessly whenever there is an intervention by a state in another
> state's affairs.
> //Dave Z
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