Re: [OPE] Fernando Mires on 21st century socialism

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Date: Wed Jan 14 2009 - 06:17:44 EST

 I am sorry to say but this person does not know much about the history of socialism.
Robert Owen who coined the term "Socialism" linked the idea of socialism to the abolution of wage labour and
Rosa Luxemburg as one of the leading members of Social Democrat party of Germany followed this path. She says the working classes must come to power and abolish the institution of wage labour, that is to say that the means of production must be socialised. We may have many criticism but Bolshewiks but they try to realise the same.
Cheers, Dogan



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Verschickt: Di., 13. Jan. 2009, 18:33
Thema: [OPE] Fernando Mires on 21st century socialism

Mires, Fernando, “Socialismo nacional versus democracia social. Una breve revisión histórica”, NUEVA SOCIEDAD, No 217.



«In its origins, socialism was closely related to democracy. It was in its early stages an attempt of radicalization of democracy upon the basis of a project of "social democracy", which sought to link political freedom to economic welfare. This paper argues that this began to change with the rise of Marxism and the Russian Revolution, when socialism became to be seen as something different -and even opposite- to democracy. The most dramatic faces of this mutation were the national socialisms of fascist and Stalinist kind
s. Although much of Latin American social democracy has gained ground, now it faces the twenty-first century
 socialism, a belated attempt to return to the ideas of anti-democratic socialism of the past century.»


Fernando Mires is a Chilean and socialit scholar actually based in Germany, who militated for Salvador Allende in his youth.



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