Re: [OPE] the composition and definition of the list

From: Michael Williams <michael.williams.j@googlemail.com>
Date: Fri Dec 05 2008 - 09:52:22 EST

Alejandro,

Me niether - it just doesn't accurately characterise any of my published
work.

Comradely

michael W

2008/12/5 Alejandro Agafonow <alejandro_agafonow@yahoo.es>

> Michael W., I don't attribute a negative meaning to the label:
> 'Pigouvian'. Just the opposite.
>
>
>
> Despite our differences concerning the role of marginal prices in a market
> economy (socialist or capitalist), I sympathize with Pigouvians,
> particularly with their understanding of the decreasing utility of income.
>
>
>
> One market socialist, Abba Lerner, used it to build a powerful argument in
> favour an equalitarian distribution of income.
>
>
>
> Regards,
> A. Agafonow
>
> ------------------------------
> *De:* Michael Williams <michael.williams.j@googlemail.com>
> *Para:* Outline on Political Economy mailing list <ope@lists.csuchico.edu>
> *Enviado:* viernes, 5 de diciembre, 2008 12:03:13
> *Asunto:* Re: [OPE] the composition and definition of the list
>
> People can label my work whatever they think fit, but first they would need
> to become familiar with it ... .
>
> 'Pigouvian', though, would characterise at most only a couple of recent
> exchanges on this list that are informed by my understanding of orthodox
> public sector economics that I have, from time to time, taught at graduate
> level.
>
> comradely greetings
>
> michael W
>
> 2008/12/5 Alejandro Agafonow <alejandro_agafonow@yahoo.es>
>
>> When I refer to my membership in OPE-L I use to say that it '[] is a
>> small, closed list of
>>
>> scholars who have been discussing controversial issues on political
>> economy since September, 1995.'
>>
>>
>>
>> I prefer not to be pigeonholed as Marxist, but as a 'progressive' in
>> general.
>>
>>
>>
>> I would also consider Michael Wiliams as a non-Marxist. I don't know what
>> does he think, but from our recent discussion I would consider him a sort of
>> Pigouvian economist, with whom I share some views.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> A. Agafonow
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *De:* GERALD LEVY <gerald_a_levy@msn.com>
>> *Para:* Outline on Political Economy mailing list <ope@lists.csuchico.edu
>> >
>> *Enviado:* viernes, 5 de diciembre, 2008 10:55:34
>> *Asunto:* [OPE] the composition and definition of the list
>>
>> > Ja! Ja! Ja! No, not insulted. But it's true. I'm not a Marxist. I
>> think that I'm not
>>
>> > the only one in this list that is not a Marxist.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Alejandro:
>>
>>
>>
>> It's true - you're not the only one.
>>
>>
>>
>> You should talk to Michael Eldred.
>>
>>
>>
>> Also - as he likes to frequently remind us - Jurriaan does not consider
>> himself to
>>
>> be a Marxist.
>>
>>
>>
>> There's also Steve Keen (who isn't receiving postings at this time): he
>> wouldn't
>>
>> consider himself to be a Marxist (he's a heterodox - Post-Keynesian -
>> economist).
>>
>>
>>
>> Then, there are members like:
>>
>>
>>
>> - Gil Skillman (who, also, isn't receiving postings now) who _does_
>> consider
>>
>> himself to be a Marxist, but - like yourself - is a market socialist.
>>
>>
>>
>> - Gary Mongiovi who _might_ consider himself a Marxian (like Sraffa did) -
>> he is a
>>
>> surplus approach economist.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > By the way, since the main criterion that keeps us together here is
>> Socialism or Post-capitalism,
>>
>> > why this list is defined as Marxist?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Actually, that's _not_ the "main criterion that keeps us together."
>>
>>
>>
>> The most succinct statement of who we are is given in the archives:
>>
>> http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/ope/archive:
>>
>>
>>
>> "OPE-L (Outline on Political Economy list) is a small, closed list of
>>
>> Marxists who have been discussing controversial issues on political
>>
>> economy since September, 1995".
>>
>>
>>
>> So - although we frequently discuss both Marx and socialism - the
>>
>> list is not *defined* by that: what "keeps us together" is a commitment
>>
>> to discuss - as comrades in a collaborative group - *controversial
>>
>> issues in political economy*.
>>
>>
>>
>> As for there being a few members who aren't Marxist, I don't think
>>
>> that hurts us. Rather, that friction can help to stimulate further
>>
>> discussion. Nevertheless, I don't think that there would be support
>>
>> on the list at this time for opening the doors to many other non-Marxists.
>>
>>
>>
>> In solidarity, Jerry
>>
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