RE: [OPE] Unified Socialist Party of Venezuela internal ballot.

From: Paul Cockshott (
Date: Thu Mar 13 2008 - 03:54:42 EDT

You are right that the criticism could be applied to other parties including
the SSP. The deleterious effects though are more significant in a party in power.

Paul Cockshott
Dept of Computing Science
University of Glasgow
+44 141 330 1629

-----Original Message-----
From: on behalf of GERALD LEVY
Sent: Wed 3/12/2008 6:31 PM
Subject: RE: [OPE] Unified Socialist Party of Venezuela internal ballot.
				> I think that this process that Gerry describes perfectly sumarises the undemocratic
				> nature of pyramidal elections. No system is more suited to dominance by a party elite
				> than this. The 'democracy' here is no more than it is in all electoral systems, a
				> means of legitimising an elite. 
				Hi Paul C:
				Couldn't  the internal decision-making of the Scottish Socialist Party also be
				characterized as being "pyramidal"?   How many people selected the leadership of 
				the SSP or any other party or political organization you want to name?  I don't 
				think that it's fair to held the PSUV to a higher standard than any other socialist party.
				John H is free to correct me, but I don't think that decision-making within the
				EZLN corresponds exactly to Dave Z's summary of democratic organization, 
				i.e. all decision-making is _not_ made by Assemblies of Citizens and representative bodies are _not_ simply drawn by lot.
				In solidarity, Jerry


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