From: Dave Zachariah (davez@KTH.SE)
Date: Sun Jan 13 2008 - 12:51:51 EST
on 2008-01-13 18:03 Philip Dunn wrote: > I read the article some time ago. By fiat, it is possible to define > Department III as unproductive. It would also be possible to define it > as wholly productive. I doubt if the question can be decided in an a > priori fashion. My taste is to regard as much as possible as productive > unless a very good reason can be given for thinking otherwise. > > For example, I would treat advertising as a non-wage cost much like any > other. Others would see it a deduction from surplus value. How can you > tell? > Well, in the example it easy to tell the difference. The unproductive costs for Departments I and II are clearly not a part of W and M, which are the *costs of production*. If you say that Department III is productive you are frankly asking the wrong question. The whole point of the productive/unproductive distinction originates in the fact that some economic activities cannot exist without support of surplus labour performed in other ones. Since we both agree that "Domestic service as unproductive labour is uncontested" Then it makes no difference whether capitalists employ servants directly or buy their services from some capitalist firms. //Dave Z .
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