Re: [OPE-L] glossary for V1 of _Capital

From: Dogan Goecmen (dogangoecmen@AOL.COM)
Date: Wed Jan 09 2008 - 12:54:28 EST

Dave, we seem to need some clarifications here.

Marx defines capital explicitly as relation because isolated approach would not make any sense.

So for example an approach to capital without considering labour would not make any sense.

If you are arguing against Marx's conception of capital please make it explicit so we know how to 
approach your claims. Methodologically, relational approach goes back to Leibniz, Smith, Hegel and Marx - not to Descartes.

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Von: Dave Zachariah <davez@KTH.SE>
Verschickt: Mi., 9. Jan. 2008, 18:40
Thema: Re: [OPE-L] glossary for V1 of _Capital

on 2008-01-09 15:53 Paul Zarembka wrote: 
> I don't think so but I suppose this is clear enough from my messages. 
> Paul 
> --On 1/9/2008 3:23 PM +0100 Dave Zachariah wrote: 
>> But if one says that capital *is* a relation, then "capital 
>> accumulation" 
>> --- by definition a quantitative process --- loses its meaning and 
>> Marxist 
>> economic theory will be obscured. 
Ok, I know you disagree. But then if capital is by itself a relation, 
what does it mean to "accumulate relations"? Can an agent do so or only 
the economic system? 
Relations are subsets of cartesian products between sets of agents. Then 
according to the argument above, "capital accumulation" suggests that 
the cardinality of relation (set) that constitutes capital is increasing. 
//Dave Z 

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