Re: [OPE-L] empirical measurement of changes in the value of labour-power

From: GERALD LEVY (gerald_a_levy@MSN.COM)
Date: Fri Dec 14 2007 - 13:14:17 EST

> Gerry:"Ah, this raises a throrny issue: does non-wage labor which does not> create commodities still create value? It is true that there is labor required> to produce the commodity LP and that much of that labor oftentimes> is non-waged."> This views value as a sort of metaphysical substance that can be produced. This> is at best no more than a metaphor and extended to the subjects that dave raises> it is a misleading metaphor.> One should not talk of value being produced.
Hi Paul C:
I referred to _commodities_ being produced. Commodities are neither 
metaphysical nor nor metaphorical.  
> Asking how much the labour value of something is amounts to asking how much of society's labour must> be devoted to producing it. It is not a question of labour 'producing' value, but of reproduction> consuming labour. If you think in terms of labour producing value you have an unnecessary doubling> of entities - the labour and the value.
A  _necessary_ doubling is inherent to the commodity-form.
For instance, there is the doubling of use-value and value;
there is the doubling of value and the value-form; there
is the doubling of commodity production and actualization, etc. 
In solidarity, Jerry

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