Re: [OPE-L] The Unrepentant's complaint about John Holloway

From: glevy@PRATT.EDU
Date: Fri May 18 2007 - 15:35:52 EDT

True to form, Louis N. Proyect has responded with rationalizations
and excuses for his (mis-) characterizations.  Knowing (now, he claims)
that John is Irish he writes that he assumed that he was British.  Talk
about adding insult to insult & injury!  To be fair to Louis, he might
_not_ have known that John was Irish.  After all, he might _not_ have
looked _at all_  into John's background before issuing his polemics
against him. And, he might _not_ have read _any_  of the many articles on
John that referred to his Irish background - before launching his verbal
attack on him.  And, of course, he might _not_ have read a post that _he
replied to_ which mentioned how he is a "Irish radical scholar":
And, of course, he has _no_ knowledge the history of how the Irish in
Britain and the US have been referred to as "dogs".  And, of course,
Proyect doesn't explain his choice of a picture of John is his blog.

John was amused yesterday by Proyect's dog story.  I was not amused
but neither was I surprised.  You can't teach an Unrepentant Marxist
new tricks.

In solidarity, Jerry

Subject: [Marxism] John Holloway
From: Louis Proyect <>
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 09:33:59 -0400

Somebody who lurks on PEN-L has accused me of anti-Irish bigotry on a
closed list geared to academics. After I picked myself off the floor
from a laughing fit, I felt it was necessary to say something because
a number of Marxmailers and PEN-L'ers are on that closed list geared
to academics.

To get right to the point, I referred to Holloway in my post as a
"British professor". In other words, I was under the assumption that
he was British, not Irish. I must add that I came to that conclusion
because of the preciousness of his prose which Michael Lebowitz has
described as a fart.

Another "proof" of my racism is that I told a joke about Sherry, my
mom's Irish Setter. This had to be reference to Holloway's ethnicity
in the eyes of our amateur sleuth and two-bit moralist.

Holloway has told this closed list geared to academics that he is
"amused" by my reference to Sherry. I suppose that I should be
flattered that he deigned to acknowledge my joke. In the past, when I
tried to have a debate with him on the autonomist mailing list, he
stood aloof and pretended that I did not exist. I can't blame him
because his ideas are somewhat worse than described by Michael
Lebowitz. They are not just a fart, but an accident in your pants
that sometimes happens when you mean to pass wind but go too far.


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