Re: (OPE-L) Re: Changing the World by Taking Power

From: John Holloway (johnholloway@PRODIGY.NET.MX)
Date: Wed Oct 13 2004 - 08:17:52 EDT

Yes, we used to argue about Capital and about the state. Allin was there,
always more diplomatic than Paul or myself, but always taking basically the
same position as Paul. Of course he's right that Maoists do not
automatically agree with Trotskyists (Tariq Ali), but I remember that we
always disagreed strongly in our view of revolution and communism and the
role of the state - so Paul's comment in this instance does not surprise me.


> On Tue, 12 Oct 2004, Gerald A. Levy wrote:
>>> Of course you do, but then we knew that in Edinburgh thirty years ago.
>> John H and Paul C,
>> What were the 2 of you doing 30 years ago?  Was Allin there then?
>> What was the Edinburgh political scene like then?
> I'm not sure you really want to know ;-).
> John [Holloway] ran a Marxism seminar in the Politics Department at
> Edinburgh University at that time, which I attended (as a grad
> student).  Paul [Cockshott] was not at the University at that time
> but was "around".  We were running a Marxism study group as I
> recall.  This was pre-Thatcher and a "middle-of-the-road" Labour
> government was in office, implementing cuts in public expenditure
> mandated by the IMF.  Scottish Nationalism was in the air, but there
> was also a small, contested space for left critiques of Labour.
> As for John's comment, I'm not sure that the implied predictability
> of Paul's approval of Tariq Ali's recent comments [if I'm reading
> this exchange correctly!] is quite correct.  Paul and I would
> probably have been labeled "Maoists" in the Edinburgh of the
> mid-1970s, and as such were not necessarily in tune with Tariq Ali,
> who was a prominent Trotskyist.
> Allin Cottrell

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