Re: measurement of abstract labor

From: clyder@GN.APC.ORG
Date: Mon Jul 12 2004 - 06:13:56 EDT

Howard, you say "Where the social relation that
generates the product as a commodity exists, then the product of labor is
constituted by value, and value, which is not presented empirically like
texture or other physical qualities, must find a vehicle for its expression.
It finds its means of expression in the body of another commodity and this
process in turn generates the money commodity.  I don't know any way to
supercede or transcend this process other than by transforming the
generative social structure responsible for the existence of products as
values in the first place (the transition to socialism)."

But you later recognise that :

"symbols such as inconvertible paper can stand in for money if the coercive
tools of the state ensure their efficacy and a roughly stable relation to
the set of value relations requiring expression is maintained."

This essentially contradicts your first formulation since it recognises
the obvious - that non-commodity money is perfectly compatible with
There seems to be a tension in your thought here!

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