Re: the productive macworker

From: Paul C (clyder@GN.APC.ORG)
Date: Sat May 22 2004 - 13:35:54 EDT

michael a. lebowitz wrote:

> At 17:21 20/05/2004, Paul Bullock wrote:
>>  What are you wanting to measure and why?  Whilst Marx showed that
>> the movement and dimensions of particular economic phenomena were
>> indeed regulated by the basic law of value (which Ricardo could not),
>> that regulation is still a process  that leaves  room  for maneouvre
>> by all interests. I am wary of trying to count items  when they are
>> constantly being expanded, reduced, re devised and so on all the
>> time. The best we can do is generate broad categories, which various
>> authors have tried to do.( If they left food preparation out of their
>> calculations as capital moved into the field, then they made a
>> mistake and should reflect on why) This will give us a decent enough
>> illustration of general trends.
> Paul, once again we agree. (This is frightening!) I don't want to
> measure anything myself. But there are people on the list who do
> engage in measurement (eg., Paul C., Allin, Fred M and I'm sure there
> are others as well). Do they include the Macworkers as productive of
> surplus value?

If  my memory does not mislead me I have treated the catering trade as
productive when I #
have attempted to estimate total surplus value.

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