Re: (OPE-L) Re: the productive macworker

From: michael a. lebowitz (mlebowit@SFU.CA)
Date: Sun May 16 2004 - 22:17:16 EDT

At 19:38 16/05/2004, jerry wrote:
>Hi Mike L.
> > Would people agree that the macworkers are not only exploited
> > but also the source of surplus value?
>Sure.  If an opera singer employed by a capitalist firm can be
>productive of surplus value then why not MacDonald workers?
>The distinction between productive and unproductive labor should
>not be confused with whether the form that a commodity takes is a
>tangible material product or a service.

That's not the issue--- it's whether the macworker is in the sphere of
production or the sphere of circulation.
>"An actor, for example, or even a CLOWN, according to this definition,
>is a productive labourer if he works in the service of a capitalist (an
>entrepreneur) to whom he returns more labour than he receives from
>him in the form of wages." (_Theories of Surplus Value_, Part I,
>Progress, p. 157, emphasis added).
>Does this mean that, according to Marx's understanding, a man or
>woman dressed up in a Ronald MacDonald suit is productive of
>surplus value?
>In solidarity, Jerry

Michael A. Lebowitz
Professor Emeritus
Economics Department
Simon Fraser University
Burnaby, B.C., Canada V5A 1S6

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