From: Paul Bullock (paulbullock@EBMS-LTD.CO.UK)
Date: Fri Sep 19 2003 - 04:58:03 EDT
Jerry, this will depend upon who 'we' are. ie which classes are discussing the matter ( if at all) and for what purpose, a 100 years from now. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: gerald_a_levy To: OPE-L@SUS.CSUCHICO.EDU Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 1:07 AM Subject: (OPE-L) Re: September 11th Paul B -- Okay, I see your point and don't disagree, but how do you think we -- and history -- will remember "that day" -- 9/11/01?/ In solidarity, Jerry Indeed Jerry, my point was rhetorical. I understand that the Maine explosion was certainly an accident covered up by the US Navy and seized upon politicians......but the result is parallel. I responded because your belief ' that history will remember that day as the moment ' etc .... seemed to me to be chosing a moment rather late in the day for US Imperialism which has done this long before. It was Goebbels who said that it was easy to get people to fall in behind the State simply by telling them they were 'threatened' by something..... for a context for the rise of more 'ultra patriotic' types......this time it was made even easier. > Paul B wrote: > > Wasn't that how the US got into the Phillipines? more than a century ago? > Very similar, but there is no evidence to prove that the sinking > of the battleship "Maine" on February 15, 1898 in Havana > harbor was a "terrorist event." > It should be noted that there is a historical connection between > the Spanish-American War, which led to the Philippines becoming > (for a time) a colony of the US, and the events that followed > 9/11/01. The connection? Guantanomo Bay in Cuba which has > been occupied by US military forces since the end of the > Spanish-American War. And, of course, "terrorist suspects" > are being held today at the Guantanomo Bay internment camp, in > Occupied Cuba, in appalling conditions without any rights and > in violation of international law and the accords of the Geneva > Convention. > > > How should we remember September 11, 2001? > > > I believe that history will remember that day as the > > > moment when the right-wing in the USA seized upon > > > a terrorist event to whip-up nationalist hysteria and > > > patriotism which was then used to change international > > > relations, launch imperialist wars, repress their own > > > citizens and further their own right-wing agenda. Do > > > others disagree?
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