Re: dreams and nightmares

From: michael a. lebowitz (mlebowit@SFU.CA)
Date: Sat May 17 2003 - 18:15:49 EDT

Dear Friends and Comrades,
         I will try to get some comments in about the statement, 'dreams
and nightmares', and the very important discussion sometime soon. For the
moment, let me make one brief comment on Michael Eldred's message of 16 May.

At 18:48 16/05/2003 +0200, michael wrote:

>Dreams and nightmares indeed!
>Better to give up all your "dreams for a better world" altogether. There
>has been enough Platonism shaping Western (now planetary) history --
>above all through its appropriation by Christianity. The idea of an
>"ideal" is one of the most damaging in all of world history (next to
>that of God as posited by the Abrahamic religions). The West has only
>just been getting over Christian Platonism during the last two

         I can't say that I find this response to the idea of 'dreams for a
better world' surprising--- given Michael's earlier response (in OPE-L
8647) to Cyrus's idea of a statement about the war against Iraq:
>Dear Jerry,
>Please, not in my name. I cannot pretend I have Marxist or socialist politics.

         Mike L.
Michael A. Lebowitz
Professor Emeritus
Economics Department
Simon Fraser University
Burnaby, B.C., Canada V5A 1S6

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