[OPE-L:8458] Re: Socialism and War

From: Christopher Arthur (cjarthur@waitrose.com)
Date: Wed Feb 12 2003 - 10:17:10 EST

I. I just read MECW 49 and was struck by Engels's defencist line with
respect to a putative war with Russia and France. This no doubt was still
influential in 1914.

2. I believe there is a thoroughy researched book by Hal Draper on Lenin
and defeatism, but I do not have the exact ref.

3. Re Hallas. All his bluster cannot obviate the fact it is hard to
denounce Thatcher as imperialist when the dearest wish of the Falklanders
was to be liberated, not of course as a nation but as part of Britain. Of
course previously such a claim was on the way out and only recognised by
Thatcher when the geo-physical relevance of the Falklands came up.
Incidentally the same is true of Ulster - very few Protestants consider
themselves a nation, they consider themselves British  and ironically the
British do not so consider them and would gladly be shot of them were other
issues not involved.

4. Oh for the days when there were good guys (Fidel, Ho) and bad guys (US
imperialism). Now we have to indirectly fight for the Taliban and Saddam!
Incidentally all reports  say next Saturdays anti-war demonstration in
London will be huge. Blair's popularity is in a nose dive. But once war
starts patriotism will kick in, and once it is won it will be drinks all
round and soon forgotten. I expect the CIA will stash some anthrax in the
desert for the British troops to "find" and retroactively justify it all.

Chris A

17 Bristol Road, Brighton, BN2 1AP, England

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