[OPE-L:7003] RE: a boring question (for John H and others)

From: Mongiovi Gary (mongiovg@stjohns.edu)
Date: Wed Apr 17 2002 - 08:58:53 EDT

"Capital  is above all objectionable because it is boring".

This sounds like something Oscar Wilde might have said: clever and amusing 
but not very penetrating.  I agree that it trivializes what is at stake. 
 "Above all"?  In a sense, capital is hardly boring if one considers the 
damage it inflicts on human lives and the environment.  Is a tornado or an 
earthquake boring because it's just about the weather or geological 


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Subject:	[OPE-L:7002] a boring question (for John H and others)

Re John H's [6877]:

>     I think my answer would be that it is impossible to take "love" into
> economic discourse, precisely because, as Jerry points out, the 
> of economics ("Marxist" or otherwise) - value, capital, money etc -  are
> constructed on the negation of love.

I cam across the following (odd) quote that I think connects with what
you've written about recently but am not clear whether you (or others)
would agree with:

Harry Cleever wrote that:

"Capital  is above all objectionable because it is boring".

Even if we grant the idea that "capital is boring" (in the sense that
capital seeks to reproduce boring lives, i.e. that it posits  the 
and actualization of surplus value, the accumulation of capital,  and the
reproduction of capitalist relations as the sole purpose of life), is 
the reason why "capital is above all objectionable"?

It seems to me  that as a *political slogan* (which, evidently, at least
one other person -- not Harry -- has turned it into), it misses the mark
and runs the risk of trivializing struggles against capital as struggles
against boredom. As a *conclusion* of a *critique* of capital,  is it valid
or is it misleading?   What do others think?

In solidarity, Jerry

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