[OPE-L:6926] Re: Re: value-form

From: Christopher Arthur (cjarthur@waitrose.com)
Date: Sat Apr 06 2002 - 14:46:52 EST

Hello Nicky

I agree with most of your 6885, but surely this is too hasty:

>4. Labour power systematically produces 'actual' money only when it takes
>the wage-form; the wage form is a Value-Form (of labour) necessitated by
>the separation of workers from means of production.
LP cannot produce anything since it is a capacity and production is an
activity. It is labour that produces, although under the direction of
capital to be sure. Conversely it is LP that takes value form. Labour
cannot; because it is the
source/determination/cause/substance/represented/whatever of value. It is
form-determined of course, because directed by capital, but it is itself in
origin 'not-value', 'not-capital' as Marx says. (Here I disagree also with
Geert's 6882 "Labour in capitalist process is also ideal value.")
The distinction Marx makes betwen LP and L is very important, and correct,
and should be carefully marked IMO.


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