[OPE-L:6746] Re: RE: list procedures and coordination

From: Andrew Brown (Andrew@lubs.leeds.ac.uk)
Date: Fri Mar 15 2002 - 05:02:56 EST

opel has been full of 'detritus' lately....!

From:           	"Michael Williams" <michaelj.williams@tiscali.co.uk>
To:             	<ope-l@galaxy.csuchico.edu>
Subject:        	[OPE-L:6744] RE: list procedures and coordination
Date sent:      	Thu, 14 Mar 2002 18:29:21 -0000
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> Offended prima donnas with an inflated sense of their own importance,
> deployment of heavy pseudo political arguments to attempt to justify
> personal grievances, spurious attempts to drive 'science' by
> 'politics' rather than 'politics by science' (by people who presumably
> were bitten at an early age by an Econ101 positive-normative
> distinction), intellectuals with the temerity to push their
> intellectual position as a 'paradigm shift' (a concept whose
> intellectual legitimacy, if any, lies in its ex post use in the
> history of science), destructive competitive presentation of oneself
> as more deprived than others, attempts to open up antagonism between
> the tenured (who dat? there is no tenure in UK Unis, just 3 or 2
> months notice on either side + normal employment law) and the
> untenured, people oh so ready to take offence and oh so ready to be as
> offensive as they choose, demonstrative public 'unsubscribing' instead
> of quietly leaving, felt need (apparently) to destroy a forum rather
> than just leave it, intellectuals who think their particular harsh
> treatment by referees is of major political importance rather than
> just being the froth of intellectual life, etc. etc,
> Of whom am I talking - well, if the cap fits, wear it (and no doubt a
> few would fit me from time to time ...).
> All human life is here - but what has all this detritus got to do with
> a group of people coming together  by agreement to discuss Marxist
> Political Economy without sinking into the destructive factionalism of
> old?
> Chill out comrades,
> michael
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ope-l@galaxy.csuchico.edu
> [mailto:owner-ope-l@galaxy.csuchico.edu]On Behalf Of gerald_a_levy
> Sent: 14 March 2002 14:43 To: ope-l@galaxy.csuchico.edu Subject:
> [OPE-L:6742] list procedures and coordination
> 1) Re Alfredo's [6740]:
> > In my view, the time is right to draw a line under these events, and
> rethink the rules and procedures of the list. This might allow us to
> review our rules and change them as we see fit (if we want to do
> this). Having done this, we may decide to invite back some former
> members who may have left (in the distant past or in the last few
> days), and who may be willing to abide by the (new) rules and
> procedures. <
> I am, of course, open to such a discussion. I propose that
> it take place ON-list.
> 2) more on Paul Z's [6738]:
> Paul writes that the list is "threatened by its manager".
> I will repeat again what I have written in the past: OPE-L
> is a collaborative project  rather than being my "property"
> and if it is the will of most  listmembers that I stand aside
> and let someone else be  the list coordinator, I will abide
> by that decision (and would,  indeed, help the new coordinator
> in whatever ways she or  he requested in the transition).
> However, based both on  on-list statements in the last week and
> off-list messages of  support that I have received I believe that the
> overwhelming majority of listmembers are quite happy with the job that
> I am doing.  I think that those who believe otherwize -- out of
> respect for the _other_ members on this list -- have a responsibility
> to make their thoughts known and attempt to change the list rather
> than just remove themselves from it.
> I invite responses -- by all listmembers -- on this issue as well
> ON-list.
> In solidarity, Jerry
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