[OPE-L:4123] Re: Re: Re: Re: use value and value

From: Steve Keen (s.keen@uws.edu.au)
Date: Mon Oct 16 2000 - 22:33:31 EDT


It might alter the use-value of an abacus to a capitalist!

At 18:08 16/10/00 -0700, you wrote:
>Paul, yes, the speed and ease is part of the use value.  A calculator has a
>specific use value; an abacus has another.  The calculator has a higher use
>value, but its invention does not alter the use value of the abacus.  Don't
>you agree?
>ECUSERS wrote:
>> Well, I guess I would say partly so.  Is not the speed and ease with
>> which one can complete a task ITSELF part of the "use value" yielded
>> by the calculator versus the slide rule?  Hence when (in my first
>> example) I referred to the two goods doing the exact same job, this
>> had to mean in the exact same time.  (I am sure there are some jobs
>> that a skilled slide rulist can do just as fast as with a calculator -
>> - leaving aside the possible greater aesthetic pleasure from using a
>> slide rule, which must also be counted in the use value.)
>Michael Perelman
>Economics Department
>California State University
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