[OPE-L:3466] Re: Gil's necessary conditions

From: Jerry Levy (jerry_levy@usa.net)
Date: Fri Jun 09 2000 - 09:41:29 EDT

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From: "Michael Williams" <mwilliam@callnet0800.com>
Subject: RE: [OPE-L:3456] Re: Gil's necessary conditions
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 09:33:31 +0100

A brief comment on what looks like a methdological chasm between Gil and at
least some of his interlocutors

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ope-l@galaxy.csuchico.edu
> [mailto:owner-ope-l@galaxy.csuchico.edu]On Behalf Of Gil Skillman
> Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 12:03 AM
> To: ope-l@galaxy.csuchico.edu
> Subject: [OPE-L:3456] Re: Gil's necessary conditions

Gil writes:
> As a result the existence of surplus value is logically
> *possible* even given price-value equivalence. *But the significance of
> capitalist production for capitalist exploitation does not in any way lie
> in the existence of this mere logical *possibility*--capitalists don't
> consciously or unconsciously take direct control of production conditions
> in order to be able to reap surplus value even under price-value
> equivalence.

This is to completely misunderstand the process of abstraction involved in
what I have called Marx's 'even-if' logic. This requires neither that
price-value equivalence exists nor that capitalists take it into account in
their decision making. One can always immunize one's argument against
criticism by hopping about between levels of abstraction.

Dr Michael Williams
Economics and Social Sciences
De Montfort University
Milton Keynes
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