[OPE-L:3309] Re: Re: Re: starting points [can surplus value be measured?]

From: Paul Zarembka (zarembka@ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU)
Date: Wed May 24 2000 - 10:20:47 EDT

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Allin and Paul C. are correct; including that Althusser is unlikely to
have known of Mattick Jr. and/or the point Mattick raised (Althusser
doesn't cite either Mattick Sr. or Jr. as far as I can tell). Probably I
should not even tried to have made a connection.

Althusser's point is rather directed against "economism" within Marxism.
I don't know Mattick Jr. and don't know if he includes struggle against
economism in his work.

Paul Z.

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Allin Cottrell <cottrell@wfu.edu> said, on 05/24/00:

>I don't see Althusser as making the general "no way you can
>calculate values" claim. Rather, he seems to be saying it's problematic
>to think of labour-power as having a determinate value, at par with
>ordinary commodities; this elides the role of class struggle in setting
>the rate of exploitation.



Paul Cockshott <wpc@dcs.gla.ac.uk> said, on 05/24/00:

>What Althusser is dealing with here is a rather different question from
>that of the measurement of value, he is asking about the determination of
>the level of surplus value and the extent to which this depends upon
>other factors such as length of the working day. I do not recall
>Althusser ever giving any support to Mattick Jr's point.

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