[OPE-L:2591] Re: Re: Re: Re: class demarcation

From: Paul Zarembka (zarembka@ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU)
Date: Wed Mar 22 2000 - 08:58:57 EST

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>From this and other postings of yours I think we basically agree, but may
have differences on the "finer" points. I'm not trying to push anything,
but while I also came to the conclusion that the Soviet Union was
capitalist ("The Development of State Capitalism in the Soviet System",
*RiPE*, Vol. 13, 1992) I found that the issue is not a "yes" or "no" but
rather the trend (which I'm not precisely defining here).

I would agree that "accumulation of capital" is heavily involved in the
issue, but I may pose the issue of what that would be rather differently
than yourself. I'm not on sure footing, however, because I would need
more elaboration of your position first.


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Ernesto Screpanti <screpanti@unisi.it> said, on 03/22/00 at 01:16 PM:

>Paul wrote in [2559]

>>If one posing the question this way, the Soviet Union would not be a class
>>society because workers 1) did "own" the means of production (at least
>>seemingly, at least "de jure"), but 2) surely did not "control" the means
>>of production. Paul

>In my opinion the SU was a capitalist society, precisely because: 1) the
>workers were controlled and exploited by virtue of the obligation to
>obedience they undertook by accepting the employment relation, 2) the
>goal of production was capitalist accumulation.

>In solidarity


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